Project: OFF0002-MC_Hollywood_BBC Clip Name: Unk Speaker 1: 00:00:00:03 - 00:00:03:13 would consider myself to be an extrovert, like a very social person Speaker 1: 00:00:04:05 - 00:00:05:20 I want to be friends with everybody Speaker 1: 00:00:05:24 - 00:00:10:02 very outdoorsy, almost aggressively outdoorsy. Speaker 1: 00:00:10:06 - 00:00:15:23 I would go snowboarding with like 10 boys who were like, you know, and keep up with them Speaker 1: 00:00:16:16 - 00:00:17:17 it was 1996. Speaker 1: 00:00:18:10 - 00:00:20:20 We were living in Boulder at the time Speaker 1: 00:00:21:04 - 00:00:23:05 They were filming this movie called Switchback. Speaker 1: 00:00:23:22 - 00:00:26:05 And my mom was dating the cinematographer Speaker 1: 00:00:26:24 - 00:00:32:01 I had seen Jared's TV show called My So-Called Life Speaker 1: 00:00:32:14 - 00:00:36:01 and was like, you know, like everyone else kind of adored him Speaker 1: 00:00:36:11 - 00:00:37:15 How old were you at the time? Speaker 1: 00:00:38:11 - 00:00:38:21 16. Speaker 1: 00:00:39:15 - 00:00:39:22 Yeah Speaker 1: 00:00:41:16 - 00:00:45:14 mom told me he was on set and so she said, Do you want to come to Speaker 1: 00:00:45:14 - 00:00:46:19 lunch and meet him Speaker 1: 00:00:47:06 - 00:00:52:18 I remember being like overly nervous and sitting and having lunch with him Speaker 1: 00:00:52:21 - 00:00:57:02 I just remember myself feeling like overwhelmed with Speaker 1: 00:00:57:05 - 00:00:59:02 you know, we just talked and had lunch. Speaker 1: 00:00:59:05 - 00:01:04:18 And we found out that we were both like pretty outdoorsy people like hiking and da-da-da. Speaker 1: 00:01:04:22 - 00:01:07:23 So he invited me to go for a hike with his dog Speaker 1: 00:01:08:13 - 00:01:11:07 it felt like we were like establishing like friendship or Speaker 1: 00:01:11:07 - 00:01:14:01 I was starting to get to know him, you know Speaker 1: 00:01:14:02 - 00:01:15:03 he's very charismatic. Speaker 1: 00:01:16:23 - 00:01:19:02 He's quite an incredible storyteller Speaker 1: 00:01:19:18 - 00:01:28:13 and I would say good at making himself vulnerable so that you would feel a connection to him Speaker 1: 00:01:28:21 - 00:01:36:03 And maybe I actually like looking back, that's something that I feel like an older person does Speaker 1: 00:01:36:16 - 00:01:47:06 so I was 16 and he was 24 and But at the time when I met him I was not anywhere close to being aware of his age whatsoever Speaker 1: 00:01:48:04 - 00:01:57:17 wasn't like I knew that he was much older than significantly older than me because the character that he played in My so-called life was a high school student So Speaker 1: 00:01:58:02 - 00:02:02:12 that was kind of like where I was getting the concept of his age Speaker 3: 00:02:02:19 - 00:02:09:21 I think it was very clear that I was a teenager And that I looked probably even younger than I was that I looked like I was 14 Speaker 3: 00:02:10:04 - 00:02:13:12 He knew I was in high school because I had told I had told him Speaker 1: 00:02:14:09 - 00:02:16:10 about six months after we met he Speaker 1: 00:02:16:10 - 00:02:23:18 he was coming out for a ski trip with some of his actor friends and he invited me out to stay with them Speaker 3: 00:02:24:09 - 00:02:28:10 was under the impression that we were going to all be out on the slopes together. Speaker 3: 00:02:29:12 - 00:02:35:21 I was very excited because I was at the time a very avid skier and snowboarder Speaker 3: 00:02:36:16 - 00:02:42:19 I arrived, one of the actors had brought their son and Speaker 1: 00:02:43:10 - 00:02:48:11 And it just so turns out that they thought that I was gonna be the babysitter for the trip somehow Speaker 1: 00:02:49:05 - 00:02:50:19 they had three rooms Speaker 1: 00:02:51:10 - 00:02:53:23 guess it was just assumed that I would share a room with him Speaker 1: 00:02:54:01 - 00:03:04:22 actually remember considering sleeping on the couch and then You know, whatever probably thought that was like perude or something and Speaker 1: 00:03:05:13 - 00:03:07:19 We slept in the same room Speaker 1: 00:03:08:01 - 00:03:16:15 I did feel on the defense that that That's clear and that memory at the time and it's clear upon looking back Speaker 3: 00:03:17:03 - 00:03:36:01 All I know is that I was in What I considered to be an altered state whether it was like pre-sleep like getting towards sleep or whether I was sleeping or whatever But I remember him making physical advances towards me and then like kissing me and And then it was at that point that I was just like Speaker 3: 00:03:36:03 - 00:03:37:12 this is not what we're doing and Speaker 3: 00:03:37:15 - 00:03:41:05 It was like definitely felt like it was like a little bit out of nowhere Speaker 1: 00:03:41:21 - 00:03:46:16 was like, okay, this person is not safe sexually like Speaker 1: 00:03:46:19 - 00:03:49:16 just don't go there with this person Speaker 1: 00:03:50:04 - 00:03:53:23 I kind of just made my body unavailable and then it just stopped Speaker 3: 00:03:54:16 - 00:03:55:01 you went to sleep. Speaker 1: 00:03:55:12 - 00:03:56:00 I went to sleep Speaker 1: 00:03:57:12 - 00:04:02:07 beyond like a just a little kiss There was no real physical contact Speaker 1: 00:04:02:15 - 00:04:05:17 now looking back, I imagine he wanted to have sex with me. Speaker 1: 00:04:06:08 - 00:04:13:11 But at the time, I don't think I was going into the weekend being like, you know, like it's thinking anything like that Speaker 1: 00:04:14:03 - 00:04:19:00 on my last day there, he took me out to lunch at a place called the Chard House Speaker 1: 00:04:19:10 - 00:04:31:04 and this was one of the circumstances where I noticed like a different part of his personality coming out, and it felt like he had the expectation that everybody in the room kind of would know who he was Speaker 1: 00:04:31:06 - 00:04:40:18 going from being more casual to being like, okay, now I'm a famous person, and so behaving a little bit more formally, or as if everybody was looking at him Speaker 1: 00:04:41:06 - 00:04:43:06 felt like a switch to me Speaker 1: 00:04:43:20 - 00:04:59:10 waiter was not giving him the service that he desired or wanted, and so he just like threw the check, the bill across the room, and then was basically like scuttled me out of the room Speaker 1: 00:05:00:21 - 00:05:02:13 pay, didn't pay for the lunch Speaker 1: 00:05:03:01 - 00:05:16:14 That definitely made me feel like Okay, I have to like really think about having a friendship with this person because clearly they have like some more volatile sides and Speaker 3: 00:05:17:03 - 00:05:21:04 did reveal like some kind of different power dynamic Speaker 2: 00:05:21:21 - 00:05:24:14 Really don't feel like looking back. Speaker 2: 00:05:24:14 - 00:05:26:14 I was treated like an equal by him Speaker 1: 00:05:27:02 - 00:05:46:09 I was like doing things with him semi-frequently over the course of like a year One-on-one as a teenager and him being in his like early 20s It wasn't until you know a handful of years later that I was like, okay, that's like very odd Speaker 3: 00:05:46:24 - 00:05:51:24 Yeah, I was like seeing For seeing like where he was headed Speaker 2: 00:05:52:16 - 00:05:57:22 considering what I'm hearing about his behavior now, it feels like... Speaker 2: 00:05:59:03 - 00:06:02:24 It feels like that's what it was advancing towards Speaker 1: 00:06:05:19 - 00:06:27:16 I was not surprised when all of these Horror stories about Things that he's done with young young young women came out because I was like, okay I you know my intuition or my instinct was that like this person Did not have the best of intentions with a person who was significantly younger than him Speaker 2: 00:06:28:00 - 00:06:43:00 I just find the behavior that I've been hearing about with regards to Jared is intolerable and it makes me quite emotional to think of these kinds of things happening with young women Speaker 2: 00:06:43:12 - 00:06:49:06 seems like, yes, that's his type because he can have a certain kind of power over them Speaker 2: 00:06:50:21 - 00:06:55:18 surprising that he's kind of just stayed with the same age group over the years Speaker 2: 00:06:56:08 - 00:07:04:00 experience was so long ago and very quote-unquote innocent in terms of like physically Speaker 2: 00:07:04:22 - 00:07:09:14 I can only imagine the rage or defense or like hurt Speaker 2: 00:07:10:01 - 00:07:10:13 feel because Speaker 2: 00:07:10:23 - 00:07:16:08 What is happening in our country that this is like the status quo to a certain degree Speaker 2: 00:07:16:20 - 00:07:20:19 there's something about the the media structure and Speaker 2: 00:07:20:24 - 00:07:34:22 American people's like inability to allow like Pretty disturbing information to not disturb them essentially and to like just let it like it's just like another thing that happened and Speaker 2: 00:07:35:03 - 00:07:42:11 It just makes the value system of women understanding what their value is and like is their voice like something that needs to be heard or not Speaker 2: 00:07:42:22 - 00:07:45:21 men who are doing really criminal things Speaker 2: 00:07:46:24 - 00:07:57:12 We are taught in this culture to make exceptions as women, to make exceptions for inappropriate behavior Speaker 2: 00:07:58:11 - 00:08:00:08 actors can portray something that they're not. Speaker 2: 00:08:01:05 - 00:08:06:00 So they might be really good at portraying that they're a caring individual or a respectful individual. Speaker 2: 00:08:06:18 - 00:08:06:18 And Speaker 2: 00:08:07:24 - 00:08:09:23 can be convinced that he's a good person Speaker 2: 00:08:10:12 - 00:08:21:14 have to really know, be somebody who's engaged or has seen it from the inside out or whatever to know that, like, oh no, he's just good at acting