Project: OFF0002-MC_Hollywood_BBC Clip Name: Unk Speaker 2: 00:00:00:02 - 00:00:06:24 I was 15 is when I started going to concerts and really exploring what music meant to me Speaker 2: 00:00:07:19 - 00:00:16:02 started more so with local bands and going and seeing them, and then more bands that I was interested in started touring in my area Speaker 2: 00:00:16:11 - 00:00:20:15 was heavy and had great lyrics, that's what I was all about. Speaker 3: 00:00:20:15 - 00:00:20:22 Was Speaker 2: 00:00:21:00 - 00:00:24:16 punk, emo, anything that was alternative Speaker 2: 00:00:25:05 - 00:00:29:11 I had long bangs and spiky hair, it was half red and half black Speaker 2: 00:00:29:21 - 00:00:30:07 Tour was Speaker 2: 00:00:30:09 - 00:00:35:10 was something that would travel around the U.S. and there were 30, 40 bands that would play. Speaker 2: 00:00:35:10 - 00:00:40:10 You would show up at 11 o'clock in the morning and be there until about 11 p.m Speaker 2: 00:00:40:17 - 00:00:42:02 it's been around for over 30 years Speaker 2: 00:00:42:08 - 00:00:45:23 one of the best points of my summer every year Speaker 2: 00:00:45:23 - 00:00:52:13 Warp Tour 2006 was the first time I was gonna travel out of New Mexico to go to Warp Tour Speaker 2: 00:00:52:20 - 00:00:54:14 So I was 17 at the time and Speaker 2: 00:00:54:24 - 00:00:57:10 bands that I was most excited to see was 30 Seconds to Mars 'cause Speaker 2: 00:00:57:10 - 00:00:59:07 I was just a huge fan. Speaker 2: 00:00:59:10 - 00:01:05:22 I had a massive crush on Jared Leto, of course, watching, growing up, watching Fight Club and Rook Room for a Dream Speaker 2: 00:01:06:05 - 00:01:14:06 So I was actually backstage at the time before they went on and was able to be on the stage while they played Speaker 2: 00:01:14:10 - 00:01:17:19 it was an amazing feeling being so close to the band Speaker 2: 00:01:17:21 - 00:01:23:07 I had told my brother, I was like, really, I wanna meet him, I wanna see if I can get a picture with him. Speaker 2: 00:01:25:01 - 00:01:28:02 And my brother was like, you know, I mean, yeah, do it. Speaker 2: 00:01:28:06 - 00:01:29:01 Like, go ahead, do it. Speaker 2: 00:01:29:03 - 00:01:29:12 Like he Speaker 2: 00:01:29:13 - 00:01:31:01 So he was like, do it, I'll take the picture. Speaker 2: 00:01:31:05 - 00:01:31:18 Like it's fine. Speaker 2: 00:01:33:20 - 00:01:40:02 And I remember like approaching and being like, hey, can we get a picture with you? Speaker 2: 00:01:40:08 - 00:01:40:11 Like Speaker 2: 00:01:40:18 - 00:01:41:22 agreed to take the picture Speaker 2: 00:01:42:11 - 00:01:49:22 that's when my brother kind of turned around and walked away from us so that he could get in a better place for taking a picture Speaker 2: 00:01:50:01 - 00:01:57:02 we're just out right behind the stage, the open parking lot behind us, you know, people probably walking by and things like that Speaker 2: 00:01:57:06 - 00:02:09:21 I was pretty excited, you know, being close to somebody that you admire is always exciting but also nerve wracking experience because you don't want to say something silly. Speaker 2: 00:02:10:01 - 00:02:14:16 And me being like a 17 year old, I'm like, oh man, you know, he's so cool. Speaker 2: 00:02:14:16 - 00:02:17:10 And like I just wanted to be so cool Speaker 2: 00:02:17:11 - 00:02:28:21 standing next to each other for the picture, I could feel him put his hand on my back and my brother was walking away and I could feel his hand start going down. Speaker 2: 00:02:31:24 - 00:02:35:12 And I wasn't Speaker 2: 00:02:36:02 - 00:02:48:05 know, I was, it was work tour, it's hot, I'm in a bikini top in tiny little shorts and his hand continues to go down and I feel him Speaker 2: 00:02:49:05 - 00:03:19:10 one of his fingers penetrated me, imagine Lee. And it wasn't a quick pull away or anything like that, it was just kind of a slide back out and at that point my brother snapped the picture and I was kind of frozen and I didn't know what to say, I didn't know what to do Speaker 2: 00:03:20:00 - 00:03:26:21 wanted to tell my brother, but I was so afraid Speaker 2: 00:03:27:04 - 00:03:37:20 he knew that somebody had just touched me that way without my consent, without being an adult Speaker 2: 00:03:38:21 - 00:03:41:15 I know that he would have, he would have gone after that man. Speaker 2: 00:03:43:16 - 00:03:51:08 And I wasn't gonna chance something happening to him because of what this man decided to do Speaker 2: 00:03:53:19 - 00:03:57:09 that was it, we just walked away and I Speaker 2: 00:03:57:20 - 00:03:59:18 I just had to, Speaker 2: 00:04:03:06 - 00:04:03:17 continue Speaker 2: 00:04:04:13 - 00:04:10:07 there's the thoughts you go of like, Well, did that happen? Speaker 2: 00:04:10:22 - 00:04:11:24 Did I imagine that? Speaker 2: 00:04:12:10 - 00:04:15:19 Is that like that couldn't, I think you wouldn't have done that? Speaker 1: 00:04:15:19 - 00:04:15:19 Like Speaker 2: 00:04:17:05 - 00:04:19:01 That was something that was pushed upon me. Speaker 2: 00:04:19:16 - 00:04:23:01 I was 17 year olds and trying to enjoy our tour Speaker 2: 00:04:24:12 - 00:04:25:18 Now I knew he was older than me Speaker 3: 00:04:25:22 - 00:04:27:14 In 2006, he was 35 Speaker 2: 00:04:28:12 - 00:04:33:00 of course, when I think about it, it took two seconds and it also took forever. Speaker 2: 00:04:33:00 - 00:04:35:08 Like it was the longest and shortest experience Speaker 2: 00:04:35:12 - 00:04:40:18 it was something that he felt he was allowed to do, that he had the right Speaker 2: 00:04:41:18 - 00:04:47:22 He didn't know, he couldn't have known what the reaction was going to be, but he was confident that nothing was going to happen. Speaker 2: 00:04:48:20 - 00:05:02:16 And that I think scares me more than anything else because how do you have that confidence of doing what you want, knowing that it's wrong, and doing it anyways Speaker 2: 00:05:03:09 - 00:05:12:11 My step-sister and I would always talk about, If that happened to us, we would do XYZ. They would never be able to touch us Speaker 2: 00:05:12:13 - 00:05:23:09 growing up, I felt confident that if somebody was going to do anything to me, that I would be able to protect myself in that situation and that it could not happen to me Speaker 2: 00:05:23:12 - 00:05:27:00 Once I was in that situation, myself, I froze. Speaker 2: 00:05:29:08 - 00:05:32:10 And I was scared Speaker 2: 00:05:32:23 - 00:05:42:15 I was scared for myself, but I was very scared of what could happen if I voiced what had just happened Speaker 2: 00:05:44:02 - 00:05:47:17 we would we always had the Kodak disposable cameras and we Speaker 2: 00:05:47:18 - 00:05:56:05 would take them to Walgreens to get developed and there is always that anticipation of you know What are the pictures actually gonna look like because you had no idea? Speaker 2: 00:05:57:14 - 00:05:59:21 But I didn't have that anticipation when Speaker 2: 00:06:00:01 - 00:06:05:22 when I got the The little packet from Walgreens, you know I went and picked it up Speaker 2: 00:06:07:16 - 00:06:13:23 And I remember seeing it I remember Getting rid of it Speaker 2: 00:06:16:19 - 00:06:27:02 wasn't anything that I ever wanted to have to look back on ever So I threw it away Speaker 2: 00:06:27:19 - 00:06:32:12 I Know that the face that I had in the photo when I looked at it. Speaker 2: 00:06:32:16 - 00:06:34:07 I was not smiling I Speaker 2: 00:06:35:07 - 00:06:41:00 it captured like the moment my body was like I was leaving my body I Speaker 2: 00:06:41:00 - 00:06:44:24 and he definitely tried not to focus on his face and Speaker 2: 00:06:46:05 - 00:06:53:06 first time that I had posted on social media that what had happened to me at WarpTour Speaker 2: 00:06:53:20 - 00:07:10:10 of my friends commented a link to a Reddit, a subreddit, that was just a woman talking about their experiences specifically with Jared Leto Speaker 2: 00:07:10:23 - 00:07:17:20 there were other people who had experienced it, and not only just experienced it, but literally with the exact same person Speaker 2: 00:07:18:19 - 00:07:35:13 I would say things like he is a non-sexual predator, do not support his work, do not, you know, any of that, and there were always trolls, you know, women who say that are full of shit, they want money, they want their 15 minutes of fame Speaker 2: 00:07:36:08 - 00:07:48:13 But in my mind, I just think like who wants to get famous for having your like bodily autonomy taken away? Speaker 2: 00:07:48:18 - 00:07:54:12 That's not, that's not a thing, you know, and Speaker 2: 00:07:55:04 - 00:07:56:22 It broke me Speaker 2: 00:07:57:04 - 00:08:06:19 at one point there was, I guess he had done some movie for Netflix and there was a billboard on I-25 that I did not know was there. Speaker 2: 00:08:07:07 - 00:08:18:01 And so I was driving home and just right there on the side of the road, huge billboard of his eyes staring right through me. Speaker 2: 00:08:19:01 - 00:08:20:07 And I had to pull over Speaker 2: 00:08:21:10 - 00:08:24:20 I knew something had happened that I didn't want to happen. Speaker 2: 00:08:26:02 - 00:08:26:19 But Speaker 2: 00:08:27:13 - 00:08:36:20 my mind, because I was not raped, I didn't have a reason to feel as upset as I felt. Speaker 2: 00:08:37:09 - 00:08:42:12 I felt like, well it could have been worse, at least this didn't happen to you Speaker 2: 00:08:42:24 - 00:08:50:14 you know, like you weren't a sexual assault, you're not a sexual assault survivor, you were groped, like get over yourself, and it's like, no Speaker 2: 00:08:51:04 - 00:08:54:12 he sexually assaulted me when I was 17 years old Speaker 2: 00:08:55:10 - 00:08:59:20 of these people stop without there being an intervention because they feel entitled. Speaker 2: 00:09:00:08 - 00:09:04:10 They feel like they deserve whatever they want Speaker 2: 00:09:04:24 - 00:09:07:07 that power needs to be taken away from people like him Speaker 1: 00:09:08:02 - 00:09:21:24 I can't fathom how we're supposed to teach young men that it's not okay when you can get into the music industry. Speaker 1: 00:09:22:08 - 00:09:23:14 You can be a Hollywood star Speaker 1: 00:09:24:00 - 00:09:25:20 It doesn't matter what you've done to women Speaker 1: 00:09:27:00 - 00:09:29:04 If I could go back and Speaker 1: 00:09:29:04 - 00:09:32:04 I wouldn't Change what happened to me. Speaker 1: 00:09:32:05 - 00:09:38:05 I would change how I reacted and what I did in those initial moments after I Speaker 1: 00:09:38:23 - 00:09:48:07 I should have said something because if I said something that would not have happened to those other women and I felt guilty for a long time and Speaker 1: 00:09:48:09 - 00:09:51:14 I'm sure other survivors feel similar guilt Speaker 1: 00:09:53:01 - 00:09:55:10 This isn't something that should be normalized. Speaker 1: 00:09:55:18 - 00:09:59:21 This is not something that people should look away from we need to do better to Speaker 1: 00:09:59:21 - 00:10:03:01 Don't let this happen to other women for 20 years