Project: OFF0002-MC_Hollywood_BBC Clip Name: Unk Asia: 00:00:19:01 - 00:00:30:15 I'm just gonna say I was not surprised when all of these Horror stories about Things that he's done with young young young women came out because Asia: 00:00:30:15 - 00:00:37:20 it like hit a chord of like oh, right Yeah, the what are the those thoughts that I was having at the time when I knew him were correct Asia: 00:00:38:11 - 00:00:39:12 it was 1996. Asia: 00:00:40:05 - 00:00:42:15 We were living in Boulder at the time Asia: 00:00:42:24 - 00:00:44:24 They were filming this movie called Switchback. Asia: 00:00:45:17 - 00:00:47:24 And my mom was dating the cinematographer Asia: 00:00:48:19 - 00:00:53:21 I had seen Jared's TV show called My So-Called Life Asia: 00:00:54:09 - 00:00:57:21 and was like, you know, like everyone else kind of adored him Asia: 00:00:58:06 - 00:01:08:21 so I was 16 and he was 24 and But at the time when I met him I was not anywhere close to being aware of his age whatsoever Asia: 00:01:10:15 - 00:01:14:13 mom told me he was on set and so she said, Do you want to come to Asia: 00:01:14:13 - 00:01:15:18 lunch and meet him Asia: 00:01:16:05 - 00:01:21:17 I remember being like overly nervous and sitting and having lunch with him Asia: 00:01:21:20 - 00:01:26:01 I just remember myself feeling like overwhelmed with Asia: 00:01:26:03 - 00:01:28:00 you know, we just talked and had lunch. Asia: 00:01:28:03 - 00:01:33:17 And we found out that we were both like pretty outdoorsy people like hiking and da-da-da. Asia: 00:01:33:21 - 00:01:36:22 So he invited me to go for a hike with his dog Asia: 00:01:37:12 - 00:01:40:06 it felt like we were like establishing like friendship or Asia: 00:01:40:06 - 00:01:43:00 I was starting to get to know him, you know Asia: 00:01:43:01 - 00:01:44:02 he's very charismatic. Asia: 00:01:45:22 - 00:01:48:01 He's quite an incredible storyteller Asia: 00:01:48:17 - 00:01:57:12 and I would say good at making himself vulnerable so that you would feel a connection to him Asia: 00:01:57:20 - 00:02:05:02 And maybe I actually like looking back, that's something that I feel like an older person does Asia: 00:02:05:20 - 00:02:15:08 wasn't like I knew that he was much older than significantly older than me because the character that he played in My so-called life was a high school student So Asia: 00:02:15:18 - 00:02:20:03 that was kind of like where I was getting the concept of his age Asia: 00:02:20:10 - 00:02:27:12 I think it was very clear that I was a teenager And that I looked probably even younger than I was that I looked like I was 14 Asia: 00:02:27:20 - 00:02:31:03 He knew I was in high school because I had told I had told him Asia: 00:02:32:00 - 00:02:34:01 about six months after we met he Asia: 00:02:34:01 - 00:02:41:09 he was coming out for a ski trip with some of his actor friends and he invited me out to stay with them Asia: 00:02:42:00 - 00:02:46:01 was under the impression that we were going to all be out on the slopes together. Asia: 00:02:47:03 - 00:02:53:12 I was very excited because I was at the time a very avid skier and snowboarder Asia: 00:02:54:07 - 00:03:00:10 I arrived, one of the actors had brought their son and Asia: 00:03:01:01 - 00:03:06:02 And it just so turns out that they thought that I was gonna be the babysitter for the trip somehow Asia: 00:03:06:18 - 00:03:11:13 I felt a little disregarded and like a little bit just like left to the side Asia: 00:03:11:24 - 00:03:13:13 they had three rooms Asia: 00:03:14:04 - 00:03:16:17 guess it was just assumed that I would share a room with him Asia: 00:03:16:20 - 00:03:19:05 I was still developing my sense of self Asia: 00:03:19:13 - 00:03:20:11 I'd never had a boyfriend. Asia: 00:03:20:17 - 00:03:34:11 I wasn't like, you know, I that wasn't in my like consideration and And so But it did seem a little strange to me Asia: 00:03:35:00 - 00:03:42:06 to be like in a bedroom with the person that you don't really know that well like that that's here You know where you're supposed to sleep Asia: 00:03:42:16 - 00:03:51:05 I did feel on the defense that that That's clear and that memory at the time and it's clear upon looking back Asia: 00:03:51:18 - 00:04:10:16 All I know is that I was in What I considered to be an altered state whether it was like pre-sleep like getting towards sleep or whether I was sleeping or whatever But I remember him making physical advances towards me and then like kissing me and And then it was at that point that I was just like Asia: 00:04:10:18 - 00:04:12:02 this is not what we're doing and Asia: 00:04:12:06 - 00:04:15:20 It was like definitely felt like it was like a little bit out of nowhere Asia: 00:04:16:10 - 00:04:19:12 now looking back, I imagine he wanted to have sex with me. Asia: 00:04:20:03 - 00:04:27:06 But at the time, I don't think I was going into the weekend being like, you know, like it's thinking anything like that Asia: 00:04:27:14 - 00:04:32:09 was like, okay, this person is not safe sexually like Asia: 00:04:32:12 - 00:04:35:09 just don't go there with this person Asia: 00:04:35:22 - 00:04:39:16 I kind of just made my body unavailable and then it just stopped Asia: 00:04:40:05 - 00:04:45:03 I didn't leave that situation feeling very warmly about him Asia: 00:04:45:15 - 00:04:49:16 did reveal like some kind of different power dynamic Asia: 00:04:50:08 - 00:04:53:01 Really don't feel like looking back. Asia: 00:04:53:01 - 00:04:55:01 I was treated like an equal by him Asia: 00:04:55:15 - 00:05:14:22 I was like doing things with him semi-frequently over the course of like a year One-on-one as a teenager and him being in his like early 20s It wasn't until you know a handful of years later that I was like, okay, that's like very odd Asia: 00:05:15:12 - 00:05:26:11 I don't think I allowed myself to fully feel that until quite a bit later Where I was like, oh, okay, that was an inappropriate kind of situation or Asia: 00:05:26:11 - 00:05:30:08 was after that that we kind of like didn't stay in touch anymore. Asia: 00:05:30:08 - 00:05:30:18 And Asia: 00:05:31:01 - 00:05:34:08 it was 10, 15 more years that I Asia: 00:05:34:09 - 00:05:39:00 found out that he was, you know, being inappropriate with super young women Asia: 00:05:39:04 - 00:05:40:08 Now looking back Asia: 00:05:40:13 - 00:05:45:13 Yeah, I was like seeing For seeing like where he was headed Linda: 00:05:54:21 - 00:05:57:11 Okay, well down memory lane right? Linda: 00:05:57:15 - 00:06:04:04 I have a few photos here of back in that day when I was a little bit younger Linda: 00:06:06:19 - 00:06:07:10 Oh my gosh. Linda: 00:06:07:21 - 00:06:08:21 You guys remember pictures? Linda: 00:06:10:01 - 00:06:11:00 Everything's digital now. Linda: 00:06:11:08 - 00:06:12:00 There's no such thing Linda: 00:06:13:05 - 00:06:14:12 Okay, this is definitely high school. Linda: 00:06:14:17 - 00:06:16:23 I recognize my high school that I used to go to Linda: 00:06:18:08 - 00:06:19:18 Oh my gosh, I was Linda: 00:06:20:14 - 00:06:25:09 know 15 16 here Yeah, I do I do look a little dressed up. Linda: 00:06:25:09 - 00:06:26:21 So I wonder where I was going Linda: 00:06:29:01 - 00:06:31:16 I look like such a baby looking back on these pictures. Linda: 00:06:32:05 - 00:06:36:11 It's it's so crazy to I mean I look Yeah, I look so young Linda: 00:06:40:15 - 00:06:42:13 I remember reading the article Linda: 00:06:43:04 - 00:06:47:22 remember feeling oh My god, it sounds just like my story like Linda: 00:06:48:08 - 00:06:50:23 it sounded it sounded like it was about me and Linda: 00:06:52:03 - 00:06:56:07 I've always been this like free spirit type of person Linda: 00:06:56:20 - 00:07:02:04 and I still actually to this day, one of those like act first, think second, you know Linda: 00:07:02:11 - 00:07:06:13 Just try things and then if it works out great and if it doesn't, then now you know, right Linda: 00:07:07:12 - 00:07:09:03 So in 2002 Linda: 00:07:09:09 - 00:07:11:20 when I was 17, I had this job at Planet Hollywood Linda: 00:07:12:03 - 00:07:12:23 I worked in the mall Linda: 00:07:13:11 - 00:07:14:14 group of guys came in Linda: 00:07:14:17 - 00:07:15:11 one of them looked Linda: 00:07:15:13 - 00:07:15:21 familiar. Linda: 00:07:16:03 - 00:07:17:22 So I said, oh, you look familiar. Linda: 00:07:18:18 - 00:07:21:09 And he was like, oh, what high school did you go to? Linda: 00:07:21:14 - 00:07:24:01 And I said, oh, I went to this high school. Linda: 00:07:24:18 - 00:07:26:11 And he was like, oh, no way, me too Linda: 00:07:27:03 - 00:07:31:13 his friends started laughing and I was like, what? Linda: 00:07:31:16 - 00:07:32:10 Like, what's so funny? Linda: 00:07:32:22 - 00:07:34:19 And they were like, he didn't go to your high school. Linda: 00:07:35:01 - 00:07:35:24 They were like, he's famous Linda: 00:07:36:10 - 00:07:38:14 that's when they were like, oh, well, this is Jared Leto Linda: 00:07:38:14 - 00:07:40:10 And so I was like, oh, cool. Linda: 00:07:40:15 - 00:07:42:17 Like, that's awesome, you know, you're famous. Linda: 00:07:43:01 - 00:07:44:11 They still didn't know he was, right Linda: 00:07:48:12 - 00:07:51:15 so I was just drawing them around and taking them through the store. Linda: 00:07:51:19 - 00:07:54:07 And so then we went to check them out at the cash register Linda: 00:07:55:02 - 00:07:58:11 And it was just, you know, like a fun casual vibe Linda: 00:07:59:01 - 00:08:01:18 that's when Jared Leto was like, Hey, like you seem really cool. Linda: 00:08:02:11 - 00:08:03:13 You know, can I get your phone number? Linda: 00:08:03:21 - 00:08:05:11 Like, would you like to hang out later? Linda: 00:08:05:11 - 00:08:09:05 And so I was like, yeah, you know, I'm like, Oh, cool, like he's a celebrity, right? Linda: 00:08:09:08 - 00:08:10:01 I'm 17. Linda: 00:08:10:01 - 00:08:13:10 And I'm like, you know, I think that was the first time I ever met a celebrity Linda: 00:08:13:19 - 00:08:17:09 I don't believe he asked me how old I was. Linda: 00:08:17:22 - 00:08:21:03 Obviously, the conversation started with what high school did I go to? Linda: 00:08:21:17 - 00:08:25:22 So I think that there was some perception there of how young I was Linda: 00:08:26:18 - 00:08:30:21 And so I was going to meet up with him after work Linda: 00:08:31:08 - 00:08:33:02 he asked me to come meet him in his hotel. Linda: 00:08:33:02 - 00:08:33:16 And Linda: 00:08:34:01 - 00:08:34:06 work. Linda: 00:08:34:08 - 00:08:35:12 It was really close to my work. Linda: 00:08:36:02 - 00:08:40:18 And I pulled in and it was this dingy motel Linda: 00:08:41:00 - 00:08:46:19 I remember thinking like, wait, if he's a celebrity, why is he staying at this dingy girlish motel? Linda: 00:08:47:24 - 00:08:51:02 But that's where he said he was still getting ready and if we could meet there Linda: 00:08:51:04 - 00:08:52:07 didn't think much of it. Linda: 00:08:52:08 - 00:08:57:00 I just was like, oh, he's still getting ready and we're going to meet up there and then we're going to go out afterwards Linda: 00:08:57:14 - 00:08:59:20 so I knocked on the door, went in Linda: 00:09:00:08 - 00:09:03:13 I sat on the bed and he was like, hey, yeah, like I'm still getting ready. Linda: 00:09:03:23 - 00:09:06:24 I'm just going to hop in the shower real quick and finish getting ready. Linda: 00:09:07:08 - 00:09:08:21 And like, do you mind waiting? Linda: 00:09:09:05 - 00:09:10:04 And I was like, no, of course not. Linda: 00:09:10:04 - 00:09:11:05 Like, go finish getting ready. Linda: 00:09:11:14 - 00:09:11:14 And Alice: 00:09:11:22 - 00:09:16:02 Okay, so he went and got in the shower and what happened next? Linda: 00:09:19:17 - 00:09:21:02 Sorry, it's hard. Linda: 00:09:25:07 - 00:09:26:15 Sorry, I had to like, give myself together. Linda: 00:09:28:20 - 00:09:30:01 විවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිව විවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවිවි Linda: 00:09:32:07 - 00:09:33:05 I'm going to get my soul together. Linda: 00:09:34:10 - 00:09:36:02 I was sitting on the bed waiting for him to get ready. Linda: 00:09:36:14 - 00:09:38:21 And he called me. Linda: 00:09:38:24 - 00:09:43:16 And he was like, hey, come in here so we can talk while I'm in the shower Linda: 00:09:44:04 - 00:09:45:18 And so I went into the bathroom. Linda: 00:09:46:02 - 00:09:46:09 And Linda: 00:09:48:02 - 00:09:52:10 then I Went on the toilet and I sat on the Linda: 00:09:52:13 - 00:09:54:08 tank of the toilet and Linda: 00:09:54:08 - 00:09:55:11 And he was in the shower Linda: 00:09:55:15 - 00:10:05:18 I don't think there was many words exchanged and he opened the shower curtain and when he opened the shower curtain he started kissing me Linda: 00:10:06:00 - 00:10:11:05 And I think I still was just kind of like, OK, this is weird. Linda: 00:10:12:00 - 00:10:13:03 And I wasn't expecting this Linda: 00:10:13:11 - 00:10:16:05 And then he grabbed my hand. Linda: 00:10:17:23 - 00:10:25:10 I don't even know how to say this part, but he grabbed my hand and he started touching himself with my hand, like using my hand to Linda: 00:10:25:23 - 00:10:28:07 masturbate himself with my hand. Linda: 00:10:31:11 - 00:10:36:11 And I just went on for just like a couple of minutes Linda: 00:10:37:21 - 00:10:47:18 in that moment I when he grabbed my hand and he was kissing me I Definitely realized that I was not in a great situation. Linda: 00:10:47:18 - 00:10:47:24 So Linda: 00:10:48:07 - 00:11:05:15 do think that I I was a little afraid of You know my loan in this room and you know If I wasn't gonna be able to leave or if I wasn't going to be able to I I Didn't know what was gonna happen right Linda: 00:11:05:20 - 00:11:09:23 know, I pulled away and I was like, okay, I'm gonna go, I said Linda: 00:11:11:08 - 00:11:13:18 He got out, put a towel on and Linda: 00:11:14:03 - 00:11:20:05 And there was a weird thing that I always remembered Linda: 00:11:20:21 - 00:11:30:14 He went outside and I remember he specifically looked to the left and it looked almost like seeing if there was anybody around before he let me out of the room Linda: 00:11:30:20 - 00:11:33:18 and I was like, okay, bye, it's okay, bye. Linda: 00:11:34:00 - 00:11:36:05 And that was the end of it, yeah. Alice: 00:11:39:11 - 00:11:41:00 I'm so sorry that happened to you Linda: 00:11:45:08 - 00:11:46:17 I think he knew what he was doing. Linda: 00:11:46:21 - 00:11:50:10 He knew what the purpose of inviting me over was. Linda: 00:11:51:04 - 00:11:54:21 Why I didn't realize that till the end is beyond me. Linda: 00:11:55:09 - 00:11:55:15 But Linda: 00:11:56:00 - 00:11:58:01 We didn't have internet in our hands. Linda: 00:11:58:23 - 00:11:59:20 We didn't have that. Linda: 00:12:00:01 - 00:12:00:21 And I was at work. Linda: 00:12:01:12 - 00:12:02:02 I got off work. Linda: 00:12:03:13 - 00:12:04:05 I met up with him. Linda: 00:12:04:10 - 00:12:10:21 And so I didn't know who he was or how old he was or anything about him until after everything, when I went home. Linda: 00:12:11:09 - 00:12:13:10 And then I looked him up on like a computer Linda: 00:12:14:21 - 00:12:17:04 And that's when I realized he was in his early 30s Alice: 00:12:17:08 - 00:12:20:13 And how did you feel finding out that he was that much older than you? Linda: 00:12:21:01 - 00:12:21:24 Yeah, very creeped out. Linda: 00:12:22:18 - 00:12:23:10 Very creeped out Linda: 00:12:23:13 - 00:12:25:17 I also saw that he was dating Cameron Diaz. Linda: 00:12:26:06 - 00:12:27:06 And I thought that was so weird. Linda: 00:12:27:09 - 00:12:30:11 I'm like, oh, you're like dating the super pretty actress. Linda: 00:12:31:10 - 00:12:32:24 You know, it's so strange. Linda: 00:12:35:09 - 00:12:37:06 Just the whole thing was so bizarre to me. Linda: 00:12:37:06 - 00:12:38:16 It was just really bizarre Linda: 00:12:41:09 - 00:12:43:21 a'r gwybod yw'r 40 yw meddwl yw. Linda: 00:12:43:21 - 00:12:45:06 A'r Linda: 00:12:46:16 - 00:12:47:13 yw'r gwybod yw'r Linda: 00:12:48:20 - 00:12:49:07 gwybod yw'r Linda: 00:12:50:08 - 00:12:51:09 y gwybod yw'r gwybod Linda: 00:12:53:24 - 00:12:56:01 Mae'n gwybod yw'r gwybod... Linda: 00:13:02:15 - 00:13:17:05 most of my life I had viewed this event as I Was a stupid girl That did something stupid did something dumb and so This bad thing happened Linda: 00:13:19:09 - 00:13:20:22 of course it did because Linda: 00:13:22:23 - 00:13:24:06 did something dumb and so Linda: 00:13:25:15 - 00:13:25:24 on me Linda: 00:13:28:18 - 00:13:29:22 don't think I ever it's Linda: 00:13:30:18 - 00:13:32:17 always simply until probably last couple years. Linda: 00:13:32:17 - 00:13:47:07 I ever Blamed him I always blamed me Because like yeah, I went you know and I just kept going along with it Linda: 00:13:48:03 - 00:13:51:08 did feel safe until that moment Linda: 00:13:51:18 - 00:13:54:16 there's the level of trust that okay so he's known you Linda: 00:13:54:16 - 00:13:55:14 on the celebrity Linda: 00:13:56:08 - 00:14:01:13 He seems like this quiet shy reserved guy, that built another layer of trust Linda: 00:14:02:06 - 00:14:03:14 and so I Linda: 00:14:03:19 - 00:14:05:23 reuweithio'r llai o'r llyfroth i gael. Linda: 00:14:06:10 - 00:14:08:05 Rwy'n papyr i'n ddweud rydyn ni'n gydag i'n Linda: 00:14:09:09 - 00:14:19:08 yeah, do I believe that even at that age as naive as I was, if some guy on the street would have came up to me and said Hey can I get your number? Linda: 00:14:19:12 - 00:14:20:22 Do you want to meet me in my hotel room later? Linda: 00:14:22:02 - 00:14:24:15 Ni. Ni Linda: 00:14:25:15 - 00:14:29:04 I don't know if it's dumpling it or if it's Linda: 00:14:32:16 - 00:14:39:20 Maybe it's a level of protection, you know, because if you are assaulted, what does that mean about you, right? Linda: 00:14:40:13 - 00:14:41:11 What does that make you? Linda: 00:14:41:16 - 00:14:45:06 What is how does that affect you and there is also this? Linda: 00:14:46:01 - 00:14:47:22 Back to why women don't speak up. Linda: 00:14:47:24 - 00:14:52:00 I think there's this level of fear of judgment fear of how you're seen, right? Linda: 00:14:52:04 - 00:15:03:06 I think that's definitely top of mind for me doing this is How are people gonna perceive me after seeing this, you know, and that's really scary thought